Whoa...... I havn't been the contact person for a couple of years now, I'm currently tracking bad-guys,teaching, and writing tools. burn/delete/eat that last message!! or at least change the contact info to Mark Graff the current software security coordinator. THIS IS THE CHANGE or, if you prefer postal mail: Mark Graff c/o Sun Microsystems UMPK02-04 2550 Garcia Ave. Mt. View, CA 94043 ======================================================================= Brad Powell : brad.powell@Sun.COM | Sr. Network Security Analyst |Part time Cyberspace investigator Computer/Information Security. |and Consultant Sun Microsystems Inc. | ======================================================================= "This country belongs to the people and whenever they shall grow weary of their government they can exercise their constitutional right to amend it, or revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln's Inaugural Speech.